KaraKum Stud Blog | Sturm und Drang

Friday 10th, March 2006

Sturm und Drang 03/10/2006 10:56 AM

Spring has arrived to our part of the world, cascades of pink azaleas match the light green of new leaves of the trees, and everywhere you smell the wonderful perfume of orange blossoms. Orion has also spring feelings, turning two now he has entered the Sturm und Drang period in the life of a stallion.
Suddenly he must question his master (me) at the same time as he is still a young an inscure boy. A hard time for stallion and owner indeed. It is now I can mold this little boy into a nice, secure and balanced stallion, sounds easier than it is though. You have to avoid being too hard and give the stallions opportunities to behave well and get the appreciation they love, at the same time as you will have to be very persistant with what they cannot do. As young stallions most of the time want to test over and over again if the can do what you told them five minutes ago they cannot do it is quite exhausting but also quite fun and challenging.
Our herd of mares are having spring feelings too, they are really racing and playing a lot in the sun. Maya, however got injured by a cut in her leg so she will have to stay in her stall for 7 days, she is not happy at all but is quite ok still. We spend a lot of time with her and she likes our company.
The winterfur is almost gone in all horses we are grooming away hairs everyday. It is so nice to see the summer coats coming out.

Comments :

1. Leonid03/11/2006 06:45:46
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

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Kaytag Shael, Yas Yar, Dalay Shael

2. Leonid03/11/2006 06:51:55
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3. Leonid03/11/2006 06:54:48
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Juruga Shael

4. Leonid03/11/2006 13:57:18
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5. Leonid03/11/2006 14:16:39
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6. Dasha03/12/2006 07:59:09

Hello Jessica,
I liked a lot Leonid`s links with photos. ATs are the most beatifull horses in the world! Paikhas is doing good, shedding a lot. We started ground driving her to put head down, she seems to like it so far. I look silly walking behind her with two white robs attached to the saddle. She was in heat so acted out a bit which is unussual for her. She already knows three walks and two trouts and my trainer Kate thinks that Paikhas is a wonderfull mover. I would like to get another AT mare so I can breed one next year, Paikhas most likely has to continue training... I will be looking for tall 16 hands AT if I can find one. I thought about stallion but after watching them on another farms I don`t think I am ready. Not yet.
On the Verge (Thoroughbred) had a filly two weeks ago - Nikita The Russian Agent, very pretty dark brown with black mane and tail. I am probably not going to race her and will raise her as riding horse. She will have to carry her parents` racing name for the history. So I am all around mom these days catching Niki and halter breaking and holding her. Hopefully in three weeks they are getting back home.

7. Todd Keith03/13/2006 09:54:11
Homepage: http://www.beknazar.com

Nice pictures Leonid!
I'll have to figure out how to link them directly into the blog...
Will let you know when I figure it out.

Cheers,
Todd

8. Leonid03/13/2006 12:20:00
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

Please, Todd!

9. Jessica 03/13/2006 18:04:40

Nice pictures and good job Leonid. Very important for the breed to show high quality animals in good condition.
Who is the handler? He seems to do a good job. Must have long strides and good condition to show in hand like he does.
And you know I have a soft spot for YasYar, since 1998 I have dreamed to see him in training in Sweden. But now I guess it is to late or maybe step by step I can get him to my motherland.

10. Leonid03/14/2006 02:09:53
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

It is Vitaly Andrukhovich, wich rided YasYar.

11. Jessica03/14/2006 09:15:49

Dascha. Congratulations to your TB foal. I think it is time for some Turkmen plov at our house. I will call you about a suitable plov date. I'm also very much looking forward to seen Paikhas again soon.

12. Leonid03/26/2006 00:51:35
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13. Leonid03/26/2006 01:12:33
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This is Garant

14. Leonid03/26/2006 01:19:37
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15. Leonid03/26/2006 01:21:27
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16. Leonid03/26/2006 01:26:09
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17. Leonid03/26/2006 01:27:10
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18. Leonid03/26/2006 01:29:08
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19. Leonid03/26/2006 01:31:58
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20. Leonid03/26/2006 01:34:26
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21. Leonid03/26/2006 01:35:43
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22. Leonid03/26/2006 01:37:50
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23. Leonid03/26/2006 01:41:03
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24. Leonid03/26/2006 01:45:34
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Khabib shael (Gayaz-Aykhanum), yearling,
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25. Leonid03/26/2006 01:48:35
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Pendjire (Karar-Pinega), two years old,
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26. Leonid03/26/2006 01:50:54
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27. Leonid03/26/2006 01:53:02
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28. Leonid03/26/2006 01:58:58
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Chaka Shael (Gazyr-Gheli), two years old,
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29. Leonid03/26/2006 02:06:01
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Garant agein,
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30. Leonid03/26/2006 02:11:36
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Yazaydym (Orlan-Yanghylay), three years old,
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31. Jessica 03/26/2006 18:54:40

Leonid. The Shael horses are getting better for each year, congratulations to a successful breeding program.
The Kruki gangsters are getting older.
The dressage talented Tekes still need western European bereiters.
Orlan is a top producer in this breed.

32. Leonid03/27/2006 00:53:48
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

Jessica, thank you for kind words, may be we became older, but I think our breeding material is ripened now. How do you like Garant? I like him very much. Out of dispute, There are top group of Sires in this breed and Orlan is a big part of this group.

33. Todd Keith03/27/2006 09:56:18
Homepage: http://www.beknazar.com

Hi Leonid,
I agree about Orlan. He is surely the best Gelishikli sire in the breed today. He has been ranked in Tatyana's statistics in the top 5 sires year after year. Strange how she only gave him Elite II in the 10th studbook. That's politics for you!! She told me once that Stavropol was the Flagship of Teke breeding. Now that Sasha is on her shit list, things have changed..... Judging his horses differently...
Shame for the breed!
Todd

34. Leonid03/27/2006 10:36:17
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I am main shit in this list. But my stench is very toxic. I am for wide shit list. It is good company.

35. Todd Keith03/27/2006 11:05:20
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I guess we have good company as we are also on the shit list...
What is your opinion of the Top Sire list?
I see some of the following on that list:
Orlan
Gaigizis
Piyada
??
Who else would you put on the list?
Todd

36. Leonid03/27/2006 11:41:04
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

My version of list:
1. Murgab;
2. Gayaz;
3. Sayvan;
4. Gazyr Shael;
5. Orlan;
6. Melesur;
7. Manas;
8. Shahar Shael;
9. Tohtamysh;
10. Karar.
Not Piyada, becourse there are not good childs.

37. Todd Keith03/27/2006 12:25:14
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Surely Gaigizis should be on the list??
He did produce Gayaz and Murgab. He is still alive...
Manas I agree. We did see some really nice foals by Karar at Sasha's. Melesur?? If Polot was still alive, I'd add him, but Melesur did give some uneven babies, specially at Tito's.... Who is Saivan?

Todd

38. Leonid03/27/2006 12:53:47
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Gayghysyz has not practic now. And I prefer his sons, but anyway he is great. Melesur has great potantial like sire. He worked for us two years and we should glad to work with him all his live. Tito's breeding is very special. Sayvan - champion of the breed 2002 (Dialog-Sonata). Sayvan is most essential young sire in the breed

39. Todd Keith03/27/2006 13:25:05
Homepage: http://www.beknazar.com

Ah, just put a picture of Saivan up on my blog.
Looks very interesting and what a pedigree!
His babies are interesting I understand??

Todd

40. Jessica 03/28/2006 12:12:00

Boys. You will have to decide if you talk about the breeding value of the stallions or if you talk about the individual value of each stallion. A beautiful stallion does not always throw beautiful babies.
Improvers of the breed are without doubt Orlan and Gaygysiz. Orlan has shown the beauty and perfection of the Gelishikli line and Gaygysiz and the work with him is very important to revitalize a smaller line that has now come back to life by producing typical and beautiful Tekes. Piyada is himself an outstanding individual but to me his breeding value is unknown. I think it is very important that a breeding stallion has a good mother/mother family.

41. Jessica 03/28/2006 12:14:56

Leonid. You ask me a difficult question, I have only seen a few pictures of Garant and with a rider and saddle. From the pictures I saw he looks like he has a long and high carried neck, which is good. I would like to see him without rider on picture and of course live under rider to see his way of going under rider. Does he jump?

42. Todd Keith03/28/2006 12:22:25
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I was referring to the breeding value of a sire. This is why I ask about Saivan's offspring. We can see, for example, horses like Amelit or Munir that were beatiful Tekes but just never became good sires. Munir had some the the best mares from Chagorta and Stavropol but never produced offspring as good as himself let alone better than himself.

Todd

43. Leonid03/28/2006 12:36:01
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

Jessica, I don't know about jumping of Garant, but he won Cup of Independent for 4 years and older in Ashhabat in a good style.

44. Jessica 03/28/2006 14:35:53

Leonid. I thought only Bashi's horses could win in Ashgabad.

45. Todd Keith03/28/2006 21:18:44
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Leonid,
What ever happened with Bakhtiyar?
Everyone was talking about him a few years ago as the next super sire, but I haven't anything about him since....

Todd

46. Leonid03/29/2006 02:33:27
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

Todd, ussialy everyone has name. Bakhtiyar is one of many sires. He is in Ukraine now.

47. Nadja04/08/2006 07:44:15
Homepage: http://www.akhalt-service.ru/

I absolutely not agree with Leonid.
From the above-stated stallions - many yet have not opened the potential (Sajvan, Gazyr, Shaar, Manas, Tohtamysh). The somecan in general it will not open potential. Those children who are received from them still few and are above the average quality, but not super.
I would put forward Gajgysyz, Orlan, Murghab, Karar, Alaman. And only after them I would put Gajaz, Ashug, Melesur, Karaburgut and others sires, which improve mares.
Gajgysyz belongs and used now in studfarm Geli. The last year from him it has been given birth 2 foals in Voronezh. Therefore early to forget about him. At present - it the best stallion on quality of posterity.
And I agree that from Pijada are received very mediocre children . With him refuse to cover. There are interested persons, but him is not given to use. It is a pity, that such stallion vanishes.

48. Leonid04/08/2006 12:17:41
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

It is my rating of Sires. But this list is not my dream. I suddest dream-team of Sires. There are young and beggining Sires too. This is list of Sires which we would like to use.
1. Murgab /Gayghysyz-Millet/
2. Gayaz /Gayghysyz-Pampa/
3. Yazaydym /Orlan-Yanghylay/
4. Gazyr Shael /Melesur-Ghezerli/
5. Sayvan /Dialog-Sonata/
6. Pekhimdar Murgab-Pampa/
7. Shaar Shael /Gayaz-Aida/
8. Dagomys /Garabek-Desse/
9. Alvan /Dorkush-Ayta/
10. Paradox /Polot-Pendjegul/
11. Paykend /Dasht-Prisma/
12. Garant /Gubalak-Tsitata/
13. Melesur /Sovkhoz 2-Sakharnaya/
14. Manas /Polot-Mushmula/
15. Tokhtamysh /Khalif-Tyazegul/
16. Pirakhmed /Adat-Pampa/

49. Nadja04/09/2006 07:30:29
Homepage: http://www.akhalt-service.ru/

It is surprising, that in this list is not present Karar, Orlan and Dorkush. As vary the points of view.
Also what means we? Studfarm Shael or studfarm Shael and Stavropol?

50. Leonid04/09/2006 11:33:32
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

I can speak like Stud Shael only. We kept Karar four years and three of them sent him to Stavropol. We used him very limitly. We prefer sun of Orlan Yazaydym (in the dream) and we like Dorkush very much, but prefer Shahid (I forgot conclud him in the list).

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