There are a few reasons to remove the inspection points from the certificate as well as the stud book:

1. The criteria a Teke has to fulfil the be inscribed into the General Stud book is to have both parents registered or inscribed into the General Stud book, the General Stud book defines it as purity to the Akhal-Teke breed. Therefore is doesn't matter what inspection or grading points the horse has the moment it gets registered or inscribed into the stud book. The key criteria is purity to the stud book criteria. Since 1973 purity to the General Stud book is supposed to be proven by blood typing. Therefore a blood typing or DNA-typing certificate is required for every horse that has to be inscribed.

2. The points for inspections will change depending on the age of a horse, the points will change over time due to new inspections or due to errors. The purity and inscription into the stud book will not change over time. Over the years we've been dealing with a few breeds, some breeds that require inspection to decide what part of the stud book that the horse will belong to (warmbloods, some pony breeds) and breeds with purity criteria (TB's Standard breds).
We have not seen in any of those breeds that inspection points are declared on the registration certificate as the points change over time.
The registration certificate serve as a proof of registration it will show you that the horse is registered no more no less.

My suggestion is that the inspection points are removed and that horses that are inspected are issued an inspection certificate that states date and place for inspection as well as who performed it and the points the horse was given. Inspections cannot be mandatory according to the purity rules above. Instead the horse owner will decide when and how the horse will be inspected, the case for every single horse breed in the west. The fact that the inspection is made by the choice of the horse owner, will put a healthy pressure to the breed association to service the horse owners with competent and as objective as possible judges that has an education in the breed, horse conformation to such an exctent that the horse owners will feel confident to show their horses for inspection at a point where they feel the horse is prepared for inspection.

We must be aware of the fact that 100% of the horses in the stud book are inspected means that some horses are given points from pictures and some are given points from inspections made under bad conditions such as inspections made of starved and neglected horses, or inspections performed at night time without proper light.

Let's turn it around a make the stud book management prove that they are worthy of grading our sacred horses!!

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2. Leonid05/26/2006 12:27:07
Homepage: http://www.shael-teke.ru

Bravo!!!

3. Hans-Jürg Buss05/26/2006 13:20:35

I completely agree.

This was always my opinion since I have started to breed Akhal Tekes. The intransparency of the present system was the reason why I never wanted to have inspected my horses by management of MAAK.

4. Nadja05/28/2006 13:14:17
Homepage: http://www.akhalt-service.ru/

It absolutely not agree.
I would like, that studbook - was the help for me. That I choosing a horse saw estimations of its ancestors. And as I would like to know their lacks to work with its posterity. That there were no surprises.
I think, that all horses should be examined and appreciated. And all are brought in the book.
I agree that the owner can choose experts. But these experts should be dear АТ a society, as a minimum.
I in general would imitate - the book of the English thoroughbred or Arabian breed. Its rules rigid enough.

5. Jessica 05/30/2006 11:30:52

Nadja. Let's see if you can help us to see through a little bit more of the MAAK operations only by clarifying your role in MAAK as well as with Russian horse breeding.
I have received some communications from you earlier, the first mail you sent me was when you in 2003 announced that you would develop the web site www.maak.ru. You also sent me an email offering horses for sale from the stud farm Yulduz, contact person for sales was Nadja Abramova, "specialist on the AT breed and executive director of MAAK."
The horse from Yulduz are also published on www.maak.ru with an email address to Nadja Abramova.
You also sent us an email offering several horses from Akhalt-service as you had to many horses there in 2003 you needed to quickly sell off 50 horses. Some of them were offered cheap as they had defects such as bilateral cryptorchidism and parrot mouth, the horses with those defects were by the stallions Kortik, Makat, Aksum and Maksut (for me this is more important info than the fact the all of them, except one, are elite graded).
You signed this email with Chief of Stable Akhalt-service.
You have also emaild me invitations to several MAAK events.
In the same email were you informed about a MAAK event you offered your own horse Djirga for sale. She was offered for 8000USD at that time and could be sold pregnant to amongst others Gaygysiz who in your email was classed as "superelit".
Djirga was later sold via Ganna Zernova, who maintains www.maakcenter.org. and breed and trade Tekes under the name Insterburg.
(Djirga who was not elite as announced but arrived as class I did later gave a foal that was diagnosed with OCD.)
Please let me know if I have misunderstood the following:
You are employed chief of stables of Akhalt-service Ltd.
You are employed by MAAK for official communications as well as web development and hosting.
Nadja Abramova is Executive Director of MAAK as well as involved in the marketing and selling of Akhal-Teke horses from certain stud farms as well as performing gradings of horses from certain stud farms as well as being your employer for MAAK, an international breeder's association.
Ganna Zernova is employed by MAAK to maintain the web site www.maakcenter.org.
And now a few questions:
How and where was the position as web developer and official spokes person/communications MAAK announced and on what qualifications were you employed? Are you paid a salary from MAAK?
Do you think that other breeders and or members of MAAK can find it questionable that you have the positions you have and might even think that it affects the way the Akhalt-service horses are evaluated?
Do you think that people employed by MAAK the international national breed/breeders, association should be involved in selling Akhal-Teke horses?

6. Nadja05/30/2006 17:03:33
Homepage: http://www.akhalt-service.ru/

Jessica. Yes, I shall try to explain to you.
In 2003 studfarm Julduz has asked to place advertising in the Internet about their horses. As I not the intermediary and also did not want to be engaged in sales, they have asked Abramova Nadja, that she mediated from their person. They do not have e-mail and access in the Internet.
Yes, I have made a site of selection center MAAK. It was my offer. I have developed design, have made a database, and I update the information, which to me give Rjabova and Abramova. I have made it free-of-charge, and I work with it free-of-charge now. I do not place any information " from myself ".
My chief (Akhalt-service) has paid money in MAAK for accommodation of advertising of horses. He pays advertising annually since 2003. Any interested person can place the horses to sale on site MAAK. The price of 20 dollars for 1 horse. There are discounts for wholesale accommodation.
Invitations to events in Russia - the request from Abramova and Rjabova.
I as shall give an explanation on stallions (Kortik, Makat, Aksum, Maksut).
Kortik was unilateral criptorh. He has given two bilaterial criptorhs and one unilateral criptorh. When Kortik has fallen, we have made opening. Opening has shown, that at him was the short seed rope.
All children of Makat absolutely normal now. But his many children after three years receive the second egg. Darym has received the second egg in five years. Other children after three years.
In a situation with Aksum - too most. His children after three years give eggs. There are as from him stallions at whom the egg "walks". They sometimes show an egg, and then again clean. Usually is a left egg, which little as right egg.
I as wanted to tell, that the parrot mouth transfers not Maksut. These are 100 %. The unique case was, and the mare was guilty. I do not have in it doubts.
History with Dzhirga as, that at you about Almaz. Only she has been appreciated in June, 2002. Under the Russian documents she was elite. There are their copies. At trip abroad began 1 class. An estimation did Abramova. Documents in both cases were written out by her. Concerning such changes I too have not received explanations. Concerning OCD I cannot tell of anything. At me was not foals from her. I did not do to her x-rays. I have offered some stallions, who were accessible in Moscow. But I did not choose for her a stallion. By the that moment she has been already sold to Ganna Zernova.
Yes, I work in studfarm "Akhalt-service". I work with clients, I do selection of horses, I buy new horses, I appoint work to sportsmen, etc.
No, I do not work in MAAK. Concerning a site I have already explained above. But me suggested to be official representative MAAK on the Internet. I have refused. Sometimes I help with translations of letters and answers to letters. But I do not answer from name MAAK. Only execution.
I not sure, that Ganna Zernova am employed. I think, that she works free-of-charge.
Your question on estimations of Akhalt-service has made laugh me. I think, that to some our horses of an estimation have underestimated. Let alone that old elite horses (Magma and Sajathanum) by a new estimation have received 1 class. Because of this new estimation, has decreased the point for an origin at their descendants. And where benefit? I do not mix up personal with work. Akhalt-service is a work. Site MAAK is a personal help.
I am not interested by a policy. I like horses and animals. It is much more, than people. But I read the literature which make about AT breed in Russia. For some horses it happens me is insulting. Horses are not guilty, that people play a policy. I have opinion, which I have written above.
That I think of sale of horses through MAAK. I do not see anything bad, that sale of horses goes through a site. It is the help to breeders. And breeders in the right to choose to itself of the intermediary in it. This intermediary there can be I, you, Abramova, etc. Julduz has chosen Abramova, as they are friends and frequently communicate.