Hello, Jessica.
Abramova some times tried to send you the letter with the answer. But all letters have returned back. She has sent them to me and has asked, that I have sent them to you together with documents.
If any problems will be, write to me, I shall help.
As text translation, which she has sent me.
best regards
Nadja
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nadegda Abramova" <tagat@bk.ru>
To: <info@akhalt-service.ru>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 9:37 AM
Subject: Джессикa
The letter for Jessica not passed on hers one mail, whom she has specified. It that purposely?
Nadja, forward to her please my letter and still an investment (I to you have attached it), tell to her, that hers letter box do not accept from me a mail and let she will adjust it so that accepted. We shall write differently in open access and everyone will read, and there there is confidential information, which promulgation to it hardly her is pleasant.

Dear Jessica and Todd!

We know, that at you the following foals were born in 2003 and 2004 : Merdjen-2003 (from Molva), Ozal-2003 (from Alma); Orion-2004 (from Raketa), Pazilla-2004 (from Parikhan), Prizma-2004 (from Pantera), Maya-2004 (from Molva), Astra-2004 (from Alma)
About these animals we any more have nothing.
We did not receive from you DNA tests for any animals.
To register foals 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006 of a birth you should send us the following documents:
1. DNA tests of a triad: the child, its mother and the father
2. The description will accept the foal or its photos from three sides: in front, at the left and on the right. White marks should be well visible
3. For the foal should be specified: a nickname (two variants), colour, date of a birth, Names of the breeder and owner and its address.
4. Mother and father of the foal should be registered in the General Studbook in the basic department as sires.
Also you should present the annual full data concerning reproductive (tribal) activity of all your mares and stallions (look the form of the sheet about cover and birth)
Cost of registration of the foal - 60 Euros. If you till December, 31, 2006 will have time to register the foal of 2006 of a birth cost will be - 50 Euros
Cost of registration of a mare in the General Studbook - 30 euros, cost of registration of a stallion in the General Studbook - 50 euros (without the license) and 85 euros (with the license).
In X volume of the General Studbook your horses have been written down: Almaz, Osman, Alma 11, Guldenze. This registration has been made in a debt. You should pay for Osman - 50 euros, for Alma and Guldenze - 60 euros, for Almaz you have already paid. In total you owe 110 euros. We hope, that you show honesty and nobleness and pay the debts.
Money it is possible to send through Western Union. Cost of translation is your expenses.
Yours faithfully,

Name № of Brand Reg.№

Color Data of birth Place of birth

Breeder/ Address

Owner/ Address

Sire	SS	MS
Mare	SM	MM

Basic Measurements:

Height at withers Body length Girth of chest Girth of cannon

Information about capacity to work:

Participation in shows:

Signature of owner St.

All-Russian Research Institute of Horse Breeding

Name № of Brand Reg.№

Color Data of birth Place of birth

Breeder/ Address

Owner/ Address

Sire	SS	MS
Mare	SM	MM

Basic Measurements:

Height at withers Body length Girth of chest Girth of cannon

Information about capacity to work:

Participation in shows:

Signature of owner St.

The Sheet of covers and births

№ п\п Name of mare (sire-dam), Color, year of birth Place of cover in last year Date of cover in last year Stallion , with which mare was cover in last year Name, (sire-dam), color, year of birth Date of birth or aborting Result of cover: Foal (name, sex, color) or noted also barren, abortion, stillborn Place of cover in this year Date of cover in this year Stallion with which mare becomes cover in this year Name, (sire-dam), color, year of birth 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Breeder /signatur/ Stamp

1. Maria10/21/2006 05:01:22

I am not sure how the word "plemennoi" got to be translated as "tribal" - but it sounds quite comical in English. I expect the correct translation for "plemennaia deiatel'nost'" (if that's what it is in Russian) is "breeding history".

2. Blanca10/21/2006 05:45:51

My request was sent to N. Abramova by Nadya one week ago, I guess together with yours.

No reply yet.

3. shael10/21/2006 07:25:22
Homepage: http://shael-teke.ru

"Sire's history"
"Stud career"

4. Blanca10/23/2006 08:04:38

The reply for me came today.

I have been instructed what I need to send in order to get a duplicate of my mare's passport and I need to pay €80.

I have asked Nadezhda how to pay.

5. Jessica10/24/2006 07:41:40

Blanca,
It must be great that after four years have some progress with the paperwork for your mare! Had you already sent the DNA etc four years ago? Keep us updated on the progress, I am still working on increasing my passion level in order to continue my registration procedures with MAAK.

6. Blanca10/25/2006 05:07:17

Jessica, yes, Maak has already the DNA.

The whole problem was that the mare was exported to Europe under a name which was not hers and now I want to have in the passport her original name.

This is what I asked for 4 years ago.

A couple of days ago Nadya (Akhalt-Service) was kind enough to send me an e-mail informing me that the way to pay the 80 Euros to Maak was through Western Union.

It is nice to have the assistance of Nadya. What I wonder is what would have happened without her...that's a bit discouraging.

By the way, is there anybody interested in a shipment of Studbooks? I have been told that they could send 3 or 4...

7. Darya10/25/2006 06:01:35
Homepage: http://www.avatstud.com

Hi Blanca,

I am most interested in getting copies of studbooks. Could you kindly write the details of that to my e-mail: info@avatstud.com

Thank you,

Darya

8. Jessica10/25/2006 09:19:44

Blanca, over the years there have been many helping hands involved in the registration of Tekes from the west, we have ourselves carried photos, DNA etc for other horse owners and others have been doing the same for us. However, I do not think that this "charity" system is acceptable to keep a dysfunctional organisation running.
We are dealing with a state financed organisation that has been given the mission to register and keep records of all pure bred and part bred Tekes in the world. If they, now more than 15 years after the perestroyika cannot perform their basic mission and thereby loose far to many Tekes that should be registered, as well as publish false or no statistical facts about the breed to the breeding community (our only way to audit their work).
No, I do not think this breed should have to depend on charity from people that will be in the position to help out at the same time as they are given an unfair opportunity to sell and promote their products on the international market.
I personally do not feel comfortable about having to manage my communication with the international registry via a spokesperson for a breeder who has, on several occassions, used my blog for derogative, not specified, comments on our breedings as being of no Akhal-Teke type.
I do not care much for her opinion that I guess she shares with the breeder she works for, but she has used my blog to insult not only mine but also Todd's work as well as the Russian judges that gave both these horses elite class.
The fact that a state run authority chooses to work with a person with such lack of integrity and such obvious intentions with her charity again verify my suspicions that the only organisation for registering pure bred Tekes is corrupt and not efficient.
We should all ask ourselves, why do MAAK/VNIIK personell reply to her emails and not to our communication?

9. Blanca10/25/2006 10:44:43

Jessica, this is what I meant in my previous message.

I have always had to deal with Maak through third persons. Otherwise, it doesn't work.

10. Jessica 10/25/2006 12:12:28

Ok Blanca, let's agree on agreeing

11. Nadja10/25/2006 16:21:08
Homepage: http://www.akhalt-service.ru/

Jessica.
You have again turned all « from legs on a head ». I have already explained to you twice, that I am not employee MAAK or VNIIK. But me, as well as other Russian it is easier to call in institute or on mobile Abramova or Ryabova and to transfer the request for documents. Any person who wants, can make it. And you also. And your Russian friends can make it. That to you prevented to call for last 4 years in VNIIK and to speak about documents, registration, etc. That to you prevented to arrive to Europe (France, Czechia, Germany) and to solve problems with Ryabova, when she was in Europe. You can adjust the SPAM – FILTER, and you were reached with official e-mail.
Question in what you want. Truths and cleanliness of registration or authority in AT breed. In the blogs you have never named people in Europe or America, which see as a management or assistants MAAK. While from you only demagogy.
There are people in Germany and other countries, which collect the information for MAAK. There are contracts with the countries (France, Czechia) about mutual aid and cooperation. MAAK works as the organization, documents are done, horses are registered.
You can respond somehow about me. To think everything of my chief. This your personal opinion and your right. As well as my personal opinion and my right to make the opinion on you and on your work. And to state it. And only your acts can change it. You can write articles, that Russian handed over horses on massacre, though it was in Turkmenistan in studfarm Komsomol. And only there. And not under the initiative of Russian. You can create your horses, your type and anybody of it will not forbid to you. You even can issue catalogues 10 studbook in English. And again to tell, that it is your labour, your work. You can demand, that you conducted studbook and that it was in your hands. This your personal right. And in general you can live how you want.
Only time and opinion of people will show, who was right.
And I once again ask to not identify me with MAAK and VNIIK. And precisely to understand border of official cooperation with MAAK and the personal help or personal opinion. Now I speak for myself. I think - it enough.
Also it is amusing to me to read about my chief. How you refer to him. I know that with my arrival to Akhalt-service, much has changed in the best party. As well as quality new foals. And my chief has much got and has lost nothing.
And your statement:
© No, I do not think this breed should have to depend on charity from people that will be in the position to help out at the same time as they are given an unfair opportunity to sell and promote their products on the international market. ©
Concerns also you in the same degree, as well as me, as well as any owner or breeder.
To you have already written, that if want to register horses - please. Register. If want to be engaged demagogy is too your right.

12. Blanca10/26/2006 04:32:58

Nadya, I want to clarify that I speak Russian.

My e-mails to Abramova 4 years ago were in this language. I have tried to call to Ryazan on the phone thousand times and doesn't work. I don't have any private mobile number of any official of Maak. I rather have tried to use the official channels. And they don't work.

Sure, for many people, it's a problem of language. And aparently it's a problem of means of communication (phones, PCs, etc). But above all, we need people who feel responsible enough about the owners/breeders so that if there are changes (in phone numbers, etc) that should be known by everybody, and not only by the big breeders or closest friends.

I'm not aware of the situation in the Czech Republic (I really need to go to visit the ATs there) but concerning France, the "cooperation agreement" between them and Maak has been and extremely brilliant operation to link the management of the studbook and, in general, the breed, to a very serious and competent organisation like the Haras nationaux, and, at the same time, getting rid of the Russian rule.

Truth, that costs money to the French association. Maak is not going to let the French go without asking money in exchange. That's fine because although this costs money to Akhal Teke France, now they are in a safe place, having a serious studbook under the Haras Nationaux and having (in the future) their own judges but at the same time, still counting on the Russian expertise to train their judges.

13. Nadja10/27/2006 11:38:35
Homepage: http://www.akhalt-service.ru/

Hello, Blanca.
At me too problems to call in VNIIK. Usually I call through special service. I do there the order and they call in VNIIK, and then connect me. It is more expensive, but it works.
The situation with e-mail could be solved only privately. Now Abramova has e-mail and receives a mail on it. Now it too works.
I hope, that so will work and is farther.